AI Art Generation: Beneficial or Problematic?

How do you feel about AI art?


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Lyndis

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AI Art Generation: Beneficial or Problematic?​

Everyone and their mama has heard about AI art generators and the various arguments and opinions folks have about them by now. Stable Diffusion, Dream, Craiyon, even applications like Lensa that use AI to augment existing images and countless others are arriving by the day. They've quickly become a mainstay in almost every artistic community I'm apart of or adjacent to. I've heard people argue both in favor and against their use, especially when it comes to collecting a profit off what people generate, and now I want to hear it from ya'll.

Which side of the spectrum do you fall? Is AI a legitimate tool for people to use in artistic "creation", or do you feel more strongly about how it borrows from the artists these various engines "sample"? Do you think it's ethical for people to make money using these programs? Do you feel similar about AI text generators? Would you play a game, read a book, or consume other media that was made entirely from AI? Do you feel that artists should disclose whether or not AI was used in their works?

Why or why not?
 
So in my opinion it has a very good use.
For example how I used it to create more realistic images and post in site for people who are willing to pay for it, onlyF. (What I think about these people is a different topic)

Ya' know how much I earned from it? That's a cool use in my opinion.
 
So in my opinion it has a very good use.
For example how I used it to create more realistic images and post in site for people who are willing to pay for it, onlyF. (What I think about these people is a different topic)

Ya' know how much I earned from it? That's a cool use in my opinion.

So, just to check if I understood you correctly @ArachneShade (and with the emphasis on your quote mine to help illustrate what led me to my thinking)

Your example; that you used it to sell customized AI generated pornography to those willing to pay for it but unable to make it themselves (although your opinion of your target demographic does not color your opinion, you clarify) and the higher than one would expect earnings from this—increasingly concerning the more the imagination is applied—venture is a supporting position for the beneficial use of AI Art Generation technologies?

Do I have the understanding of your stance correctly?
 
So, just to check if I understood you correctly @ArachneShade (and with the emphasis on your quote mine to help illustrate what led me to my thinking)

Your example; that you used it to sell customized AI generated pornography to those willing to pay for it but unable to make it themselves (although your opinion of your target demographic does not color your opinion, you clarify) and the higher than one would expect earnings from this—increasingly concerning the more the imagination is applied—venture is a supporting position for the beneficial use of AI Art Generation technologies?

Do I have the understanding of your stance correctly?
Why does it sound like I'm in trouble?

And to clarify, it wasn't corn, trust me I have at least the rest of human decency inside me. I don't think it's supporting. Other people can use AI differently. My statement was mostly to make people laugh. Maybe I haven't hit your type of humor.
 
Why does it sound like I'm in trouble?

You're not in trouble. But I'd be a poor admin if I left what could be misinterpreted as someone bragging about making potentially illegal (and morally repugnant) imagery for sale to criminals just...stand unquestioned. There's my type of humor (which isn't even remotely offended here), and then there's my responsibilities in meeting my promises for the kind of space that has been founded here.

Being edgy is fine. IRC and image boards even before 4Chan raised me. Being edgy as a means to make another uncomfortable however, would not fly.
 
@escapethereality @ArachneShade

Appreciate you guys offering opinions, but neither of you really addressed any of the talking points proposed in the OP. Saying you like it and use it doesn't really explain WHY or add to the discussion on WHY you feel that way / choose to do so.
 
Some of my best character pictures are made by AI. After a few dozen attempts usually, but eventually it gets close enough for me to like the result. Of course some GIMP attention by me afterwards doesn't hurt to smooth out the rough edges. All in all, I think AI art is fine, and far from perfect, leaving a lot for the would-be artist to fix/edit themselves. It's a good template to work off of.
 
I don't mind it. The biggest complaints I encounter are from artists. Understandable as it affects their livelihoods. Lying about not using it--that's not cool.
 
Boy. This is a loaded topic.

First off, as a disclaimer, I am in fact an artist. I sell commissions often. Throws up some random examples

This simple fact does indeed influence my personal take on things, but I am often on the other side too; I also buy a lot of commissions. I feel like at the moment, the biggest issue with AI is that is has very little legislation surrounding it. Both written work, and art prompts, it's all in some weird... hazy, grey ground; the way the ai is being trained is dubious, with little to no actual consent. This is an issue. No one should train an AI with your written word or your art without your consent; it amounts to stealing.

The lack of laws and legislation surrounding AI is the issue, not AI itself. AI is nothing more than a tool; same as photography cameras were, once upon a time when they were created. They will continue to drift in a weird, morally grey area until the laws and legislation manages to catch up to it, which it will. Eventually.

Do I think it's bad? Eh. It's... a grey area. Do you know what I think it's great for? Art refs for example. Trying to figure out say a background you want or a character you want. You could easily give an artist some art you generated and go "this is the vibe I want for my commission".

Is it being used like that ATM? Not... really. But at the end of the day, a tool is a tool is a tool. Not bad. Not good. Depends on how it's being used and currently... the answer is, sadly, it's not being used very well. Time will tell how the penny will drop.

Also BOY AM I LATE TO THE PARTY. But it's late at night, I can not sleep and I have OPINIONS. XD
 

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I think when used as a template to maybe help start an idea, or just for fn about it's okay. Still don't care for it but that's not harmful.

Over all though I think it destructive and detrimental. Lot of the references used were taken without approval including paid works. Plenty artists use a reference sure but there's no human element to the AI doing it. I don't see the machine inspired by Gabriel Del'otto etc, just trying to copy such work. As well as think it just often inferior results to what artists make.
 
Personally, I am not a fan of AI Art. I think all the new developments coming in are making it very hard to tell what was made by humans and what was just generated. For example there's features coming out where you can fake a drawing time lapse. Why would we need this tool if not for some kind of nefarious purpose? Not to mention, AI learns by stealing images from real artists who actually drew the original drawings.

People calling themselves "AI Artists" just rubs me the wrong way as well. For all of human history, no matter what form the art was in, art is born of raw passion and love and work. And I don't think typing a few words into a generator and then watching a robot use it's (stolen) knowledge to generate you a picture falls into that category. Though I do also think that AI has some good uses like, using for references for drawing - I just think the bad far outweighs the good.
 
The benefits of the AI art is allowing anyone who may be not "skilled" to feel some spark of creativity.

I sadly cannot draw like i used to.. It been years i stopped to.

Anyways, as long everyone are honest by saying if they are using any, i’d say, it’s a big plus.
 
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